NOT the Sermon
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
Episodes

Monday Dec 01, 2025
Episode 90: "My Glutes Are Crying"
Monday Dec 01, 2025
Monday Dec 01, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie talks about officiating a Sermonot wedding and Eric shares how his “guest speaker workout” turned into an accidental leg day. In Christian Conspiracies, they dive into the strange and sensational world of the Red Heifer theories. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle how churches should select worship songs and what actually makes a song theologically trustworthy. Finally, in Odd News, they cover a classic: a naked Florida Man doing lawn care like it’s completely normal.
It’s wild, ridiculous, and just theological enough—welcome to Not the Sermon
00:00:13 – Skybalon: Sermonot wedding & leg day
00:09:36 – Christian Conspiracies: The Red Heifer
00:20:21 – Houston, We Have a Question: How should a church select worship songs?
00:38:03 – Odd News: Naked Florida Man does lawn care

Monday Nov 24, 2025
Episode 89: "Spanx-Giving"
Monday Nov 24, 2025
Monday Nov 24, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking poddy humor and the chaos of Black Friday shopping. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle listener questions about whether spouses should hold each other accountable spiritually and whether the Holy Spirit speaks to people in comas. Then in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a new Thanksgiving-themed parody: Here I Am to Pig Out. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they answer a timely question—how do you stay thankful?
It’s fun, honest, and the perfect mix of theology and nonsense—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:15 – Skybalon: Poddy humor and Black Friday
00:10:54 – Houston, We Have a Question: Spousal accountability & comas
00:22:52 – How Great is Our Pod: Here I Am to Pig Out
00:28:26 – Pester the Pastor: How do you stay thankful?

Monday Nov 17, 2025
Episode 88: "What's Drugs?"
Monday Nov 17, 2025
Monday Nov 17, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie calls out Eric for making faces at him during a serious ministry moment, and the guys reflect on how the D.A.R.E. program failed an entire generation. In Pilgrim or Florida Man?, they debut a new game where they read insane headlines and try to guess whether the chaos came from early American settlers or modern-day Floridians. In Shady Theology, they take on the heavy question of whether God hates some people. Finally, in Weird Worship, they get honest about how often Christians end up lying in worship songs without even realizing it.
It’s equal parts hilarious and thought-provoking—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:12 – Skybalon: Distracting Jamie during ministry
00:09:58 – Game: Pilgrim or Florida Man?
00:21:09 – Shady Theology: Does God hate some people?
00:34:01 – Weird Worship: Lying in worship songs

Monday Nov 10, 2025
Episode 87: "Daddy Needs Snake Eyes"
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start off with Shooting the Skybalon, featuring The Crazy Halloween Lady—a woman who messaged the church calling it a “synagogue of Satan” for hosting Trunk or Treat. In Shady Theology, they explore Holiday Rituals and Symbols—from jack-o-lanterns to Christmas trees—and ask if these traditions are kosher for Christians. Then, in Houston, We Have a Question, they take on listener questions: is casting lots a valid way to discern God’s will, will Not the Sermon ever release an album, and can we guess the date of "the end"? Finally, in Eric’s Edumakation, they break down Churches and Legal Liability—what pastors and leaders need to know before the paperwork hits the fan.
It’s funny, fiery, and a little too real—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:11 – Shooting the Skybalon: The Crazy Halloween Lady
00:09:41 – Shady Theology: Holiday rituals and symbols
00:24:18 – Houston, We Have a Question: Casting lots, NTS album, and rapture guessing
00:35:11 – Eric’s Edumakation: Churches and legal liability

Monday Nov 03, 2025
Episode 86: "Lordship Weader"
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
In this episode of Not the Sermon, the boys are back from overseas—jetlagged, dog-bitten, and running on fumes. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric shares the chaos of losing one dog and getting bitten by the other. Pester the Pastor tackles the balance between local and international ministry. In Weird Worship they dive into whether worship teams should use backing tracks, and Your Greek is Showing unpacks three Greek words for “sin.” It’s equal parts chaos, conviction, and comedy—the perfect Not the Sermon mix.00:00:14 Shooting the Skybalon: Jetlag, Eric’s Dog Woes, and COPS00:10:35 Pester the Pastor: How Much Should Churches Minister Overseas?00:21:31 Weird Worship: Should Worship Bands Use Backing Tracks?00:36:15 Your Greek Is Showing: Three Words for “Sin” in the Bible

Monday Oct 27, 2025
Episode 85: "The Goat is Coming"
Monday Oct 27, 2025
Monday Oct 27, 2025
You are in for special treat! This is an "on site" recording from a recent international trip that Jamie & Eric took. They give you on-the-ground information about the state of Christianity abroad and share some of the precious moments, mishaps, and delirium they experienced on the trip! [00:00:20] Part 1: Funny Stories [00:20:37] Part 2: Ministry Update [00:31:28] Part 3: Airport Lounge Wrap Up

Monday Oct 20, 2025
Episode 84: "I'd Rather Hunt Cows Than Deer"
Monday Oct 20, 2025
Monday Oct 20, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric are back from India… kind of. In Shooting the Skybalon, they talk planes, trains, and autorickshaws In The Bible Says What?!, they dive into wisdom literature and how it hilariously reminds us of how dumb we can be. Then in Communion Clapback, they respond to all the snarky social media comments. Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with the idea of God’s wrath—what it is, what it isn’t, and why it’s not as simple as people think.
It’s global, theological, and just the right amount of unhinged—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:14 – Shooting the Skybalon: Planes, trains, and autorickshaws
00:12:21 – The Bible Says What?!: The dumb man & Jezebel
00:22:02 – Communion Clapback: Responding to the comment section
00:34:57 – Shady Theology: God’s wrath

Monday Oct 13, 2025
Episode 83: "Did I Ruin the Eppy?"
Monday Oct 13, 2025
Monday Oct 13, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, asking life’s tough questions: how much effort is too much when squeezing cheese out of the mac-and-cheese packet? Plus, Jamie shares how State Farm dumped him like a crazy ex—only to come crawling back. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a hot topic: should kids stay in the main service with their parents, or do they need their own space? Then in Odd News, things get bizarre with a scuba-suited man robbing a store at Disney Springs. Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, they open up the strange world of the Book of Enoch—complete with angels, demons, forbidden metallurgy, and claims the Catholic Church has been hiding it all.
It’s equal parts hilarious and thought-provoking—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:15 – Shooting the Skybalon: Cheese packets & State Farm drama
00:11:16 – Pester the Pastor: Should kids be separated from adults in church?
00:23:17 – Odd News: Scuba gear robbery at Disney Springs
00:31:45 – Christian Conspiracies: The Book of EnochWanna support the ministry of NOT the Sermon and see some behind the scene footage and inbetween segment insults? Check us out on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon

Monday Oct 06, 2025
Episode 82: "Happy Caw"
Monday Oct 06, 2025
Monday Oct 06, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi-level marketing has any place in the church—or if it’s just spiritual spam.
It’s raw, funny, and loaded with the mix of memes and theology you didn’t know you needed—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:13 – Shooting the Skybalon: Bad words in a staff meeting
00:11:06 – Shady Theology: Speaking in tongues
00:24:41 – How Great is Our Pod: A prodigal worship song
00:38:23 – Pester the Pastor: MLMs in the churchWanna see these ugly mugs and get behind the scenes footage? Check out our Patreon https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon

Monday Sep 29, 2025
Episode 81: "That's When My Balloon Tiger Popped"
Monday Sep 29, 2025
Monday Sep 29, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric dives into the strange world of the Amish Mafia and Jamie talks about staff meeting word games. In Weird Worship, they ask if there’s a secret worship cabal—are just a handful of people running the whole industry? Then it’s on to Odd News, where they debate whether becoming a Christian actually makes you “hotter.” Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a practical question: is it okay for churches to track metrics like attendance and giving?
It’s bizarre, hilarious, and just the right mix of memes and ministry—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:19 – Shooting the Skybalon: Amish Mafia & word games
00:09:32 – Weird Worship: The worship cabal
00:23:37 – Odd News: Are Christians hotter?
00:33:04 – Pester the Pastor: Should churches track metrics?

Episode Spotlight!
#41 "Show Me Your Heresy"
Release Date 10/14/2024
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk discuss the Christian zombie apocalypse, whether or not Christians should celebrate Halloween,and how a stale cookie started "Crumblgate" in Australia.




