NOT the Sermon
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
Episodes

Monday Sep 22, 2025
Episode 80: "Smoking On Gas Station Theology"
Monday Sep 22, 2025
Monday Sep 22, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, swapping stories about college football heartbreak and debating whether you’ve got a “bestie” or a “worstie.” In Shady Theology, they wrestle with the tough question: Does God cause natural disasters? Then in Pester the Pastor, Eric manages to trigger Jamie during a heated discussion on small groups—are they helpful or just hype? Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, the guys dive into a wild one: was John the Baptist actually the real Messiah?
00:00:17 – Shooting the Skybalon: College football & besties vs. worsties
00:12:47 – Shady Theology: Does God cause natural disasters?
00:24:44 – Pester the Pastor: Eric triggers Jamie about small groups
00:35:09 – Christian Conspiracies: Was John the Baptist the real Messiah?

Monday Sep 15, 2025
Episode 79: "Man Shame"
Monday Sep 15, 2025
Monday Sep 15, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie leaves Phoenix an unfortunate voicemail and Eric ends up with a female locksmith story he can’t shake. In Weird Worship, the guys unpack the social media spat between Cory Asbury and Forrest Frank—asking if worship leaders should rise above the drama and act as role models. Next, in Houston, We Have a Question, they dive into the confusing world of end-times theology by asking the big one: Who is the Antichrist? Finally, in The Bible Says What!?, they wrestle with Paul telling the Judaizers he wishes they’d castrate themselves, plus an obscure Ecclesiastes passage about casting your bread.
00:00:19 – Shooting the Skybalon: Voicemails & locksmith stories
00:12:30 – Weird Worship: Cory Asbury & Forrest Frank drama
00:27:48 – Houston, We Have a Question: Who is the Antichrist?
00:36:35 – The Bible Says What?!: Judaizers & casting your bread

Monday Sep 08, 2025
Episode 78: "An Enraged Chimpanzee in a Small Cage"
Monday Sep 08, 2025
Monday Sep 08, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where a Sermonot takes a stab at interpreting Eric’s dream, and Jamie goes off on people who insist on backing into parking spaces. In Pester the Pastor, the guys dig into the Billy Graham/Mike Pence Rule and whether it’s wisdom or overkill. Then, in How Great is Our Pod, they debut Goodbye Sanity—a parody of Elevation Rhythm’s Goodbye Yesterday that you’ll never hear in church (for good reason). Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with the rapture—what it is, where it came from, and why it might not mean what you think.
00:00:16 – Shooting the Skybalon: Dream interpreters & parking space rants
00:10:25 – Pester the Pastor: The Billy Graham/Mike Pence Rule
00:23:33 – How Great is Our Pod: Goodbye Sanity parody
00:31:57 – Shady Theology: The Rapture

Monday Sep 01, 2025
Episode 77: "Gees Croyce"
Monday Sep 01, 2025
Monday Sep 01, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric serve up a fresh round of theology, comedy, and chaos. In Shooting the Skybalon, Jamie tells the story of a fine dining experience that somehow featured a DJ, while Eric shares about catching a stray “Pharisee” insult in the church foyer. Next, in Shady Theology, the guys dive into stories of people claiming to visit heaven—are they legit or just tall tales? Over in So Help Meme God, they can’t stop laughing at “Gees Croyse We Luv U, God,” a viral moment featuring an overly excited guy breakdancing for Jesus. Finally, in Eric’s Edumakation, Eric breaks down the major atonement theories, why they exist, and why they actually matter for everyday faith.

Monday Aug 25, 2025
Episode 76: "MOOOODALISM"
Monday Aug 25, 2025
Monday Aug 25, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric bring you MOOODALISM!!! and everything that comes with it. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric owns up to a Facebook joke about compassion that may have landed a little too harsh, while Jamie recounts a mishap at a funeral. In Houston, We Have a Question, the guys tackle the big one: Modalism vs. the Trinity—why it matters, and how to keep your theology straight. Over in Weird Worship, they riff on Brandon Lake’s push for worship songs that actually connect with the average Christian—yes, even Bubba. And in Pester the Pastor, they dig into how to respond when prophecy goes sideways and weigh in on the latest Shawn Bolz controversy.
00:00:12 – Shooting the Skybalon: Eric’s compassion post joke & Jamie’s funeral mishap
00:09:20 – Houston, We Have a Question: Modalism vs. the Trinity
00:24:22 – Weird Worship: Brandon Lake, Bubba, and worship songs for the average Christian
00:36:31 – Pester the Pastor: Responding to false prophecy & the Shawn Bolz accusations

Monday Aug 18, 2025
Episode 75: "Cartoon Dog Chest Tattoo"
Monday Aug 18, 2025
Monday Aug 18, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about whether baptism is necessary, they show a little greek with the 4 Greek words for love, and play their favorite game, "Life's a Preach!"
Don't forget to check us out on Patreon where you can see our ugly mugs and get a little bit closer to the action!
https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon00:00:12 Shooting the Skybalon: Mormon Temples and Chest Tattoos 00:10:17 Shady Theology: Baptism 00:25:34 Life's a Preach! 00:33:24 Your Greek is Showing: Love

Monday Aug 11, 2025
Episode 74: "1080 Boys in a 4k World"
Monday Aug 11, 2025
Monday Aug 11, 2025
Season 3 is finally here! And we’re back, baby! Jamie and Eric return with a fresh batch of unfiltered (it's definitely filtered) comedy and theology.
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off by Shooting the Skybalon with a roast poem from one our listeners. They move on to Shady Theology, diving into the weird world of church membership. In Bible Says What!? they ask why John ran faster than Peter and discuss the nature of Bathroom Law. In Pester the Pastor, they wade into the messy pool of Christian celebrity culture.
Want to see our ugly mugs while we record? Check out our Patreon for video episodes and more behind-the-scenes chaos: https://www.patreon.com/c/NOTtheSermon

Monday Jul 28, 2025
Summer Short Shorts #5: That Time Possums Moved Into Jamie's House
Monday Jul 28, 2025
Monday Jul 28, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric are joined by Jamie's wife Tiffany to talk about the time giant possum and her family moved into Jamie's house!Season 3 begins August 11th! Stay tuned for some major announcements and new features!

Monday Jul 21, 2025
REPOST: "Deep Fried Hymns"
Monday Jul 21, 2025
Monday Jul 21, 2025
REPOST: In this episode, Jamie. & Eric talk denominations, cults, and heresy hunters! They also release a new NTS original song "My Name is On a Mailbox, Down the Great Dirt Road of Heaven"
Season 3 is right around the corner! Keep on keeping on, Sermonots!

Monday Jul 14, 2025
Summer Short Shorts #4: A Mid-Summer Shady"
Monday Jul 14, 2025
Monday Jul 14, 2025
In this episode Jamie & Eric are reunited (and it feels so good)! The boys shoot the skybalon, give some summer updates, and then dive in to their mid-summer shady...theology: Confession.

Episode Spotlight!
#41 "Show Me Your Heresy"
Release Date 10/14/2024
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk discuss the Christian zombie apocalypse, whether or not Christians should celebrate Halloween,and how a stale cookie started "Crumblgate" in Australia.




