NOT the Sermon
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
Episodes

4 days ago
Sermonot Fav: REPOST: Holy Debauchery
4 days ago
4 days ago
Let’s rewind to our most listened-to episode of 2024: Holy Debauchery! Jamie and Eric were live on-site in Orlando, Florida, joined by a few staff pastors to talk all things conference culture, pastors tithing, and more. And don’t miss the original roast song written by a Sermonot.

Monday Jun 23, 2025
Summer Short Shorts #2: Stuck on a train in Switzerland
Monday Jun 23, 2025
Monday Jun 23, 2025
Fresh off the podcasting press, Eric is joined by a special guest, Cynthia Bryan as he debriefs from his sabbatical and talks about how he got stuck on a train in Switzerland.

Monday Jun 16, 2025
Jamie's Fav: REPOST: Dead Boat with a Cold
Monday Jun 16, 2025
Monday Jun 16, 2025
One of Jamie's favorite NTS episodes. Enjoy!
00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Tongue Twisters 00:08:19 Eric's Edumakation: The Gospel Overseas 00:22:32 So Help Meme God: Funeral Music 00:34:33 Pester the Pastor: Conflict

Monday Jun 09, 2025
Summer Short Shorts #1: That time Jamie almost paralyzed a middle schooler
Monday Jun 09, 2025
Monday Jun 09, 2025
Rejoice, Sermonots - it's our first Summer Short Short! Join Jamie and his wife Tiffany as they talk about the time Jamie almost paralyzed one of his children's classmates. Tiff also takes a quiz to prove if she's really been listening to her husband's podcast. Hilarity ensues!

Monday Jun 02, 2025
Eric's Fav: REPOST: Momma Bear Needs Her Wine
Monday Jun 02, 2025
Monday Jun 02, 2025
Enjoy one of Eric's favorite episodes from Season 1: Momma Bear Needs Her Wine!00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Happy New Year 00:10:04 Pester the Pastor: Daniel Fasts 00:22:24 Shady Theology: Alcohol 00:32:23 Houston, We Have a Question: Pets in Heaven

Monday May 26, 2025
Episode 73: "A Maniacal Party"
Monday May 26, 2025
Monday May 26, 2025
The final episode of Season 2! Don't be dismayed, Not the Sermon will be releasing our "Summer Short Shorts" episodes throughout the summer, along with Jamie & Eric's favorite episodes from the past 2 seasons.In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk about the spiritual gift of time travel, release a new song, and review some of the highlights from Season 2.
00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Season 2 Review 00:10:53 Shady Theology: Revival 00:27:12 So Help Meme God: Time Travel 00:37:52 How Great is Our Pod: Summer Time

Monday May 19, 2025
Episode 72: Get Your Algorithm Checked
Monday May 19, 2025
Monday May 19, 2025
In this episode, the boys are unhinged. They talk about the unfortunate fate of Moses' and Zipporah's son, Harry Potter & satanic panic, and talk about how to hear the voice of God.00:00:16 Shooting the Skybalon: Bucket Gardens 00:08:55 The Bible Says What?!: Zipporah and her son 00:19:49 So Help Meme God: Harry Potter 00:33:07 Pester the Pastor: God's Voice

Monday May 12, 2025
Episode 71: "Father Time Put Your Hairline in Reverse"
Monday May 12, 2025
Monday May 12, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric are joined by Brandon for a redemption episode! They guys talk about bad haircuts, Christian cultural trends, and the popular phrase "God will never give you more than you can handle."00:00:10 Shooting the Skybalon: AI Roasts 00:12:38 Shady Theology: More than you can handle 00:24:00 So Help Meme God: Haircut Preacher 00:33:06 Pester the Pastor: Christian Trends

Monday May 05, 2025
Episode 70: "How to Trim a Parakeet's Toenails"
Monday May 05, 2025
Monday May 05, 2025
In this episode, Jamie and Eric talk covenant faithfulness, how to get men to sing in church, and whether generational curses are real or just bad family habits with spiritual branding.[00:00] Intro[00:00:16] Shooting the Skybalon – Tire Spikes and Parakeet Toenails[00:08:34] Your Greek is Showing – Hesed[00:20:45] So Help Meme God – Men Don’t Sing[00:31:01] Shady Theology – Generational Curses

Monday Apr 28, 2025
Episode 69: "Pizza Baller"
Monday Apr 28, 2025
Monday Apr 28, 2025
In this episode Jamie & Eric talk burnout, discuss Jesus' 3 days in the tomb, and play a new game "Beak or Bogus."00:00:15 Shooting the Skybalon: Pope Selection 00:08:19 Pester the Pastor: Burnout 00:23:33 Game: Beak or Bogus 00:31:19 Meme: 3 Days and 3 Nights

Episode Spotlight!
#41 "Show Me Your Heresy"
Release Date 10/14/2024
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk discuss the Christian zombie apocalypse, whether or not Christians should celebrate Halloween,and how a stale cookie started "Crumblgate" in Australia.