NOT the Sermon
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
Episodes

4 days ago
Episode 95: "Fresh Year, Fresh Heresy"
4 days ago
4 days ago
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, roasting listeners’ Spotify Wrapped results and reacting to a mysterious Sermonot gift. In Shady Theology, they wade into deep waters with annihilationism and conditional immortality—what they are, why people believe them, and why they matter. Then it’s game time with a New Year’s Sermon Mad-Lib, where things go off the rails fast. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle Preachers & Sneakers—asking how much pastors should spend on clothes, cars, and homes, and where wisdom, optics, and integrity collide.
It’s sharp, funny, and theologically spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:18 – Skybalon: Roasting listeners’ Wrapped & a Sermonot gift
00:10:07 – Shady Theology: Annihilation & conditional immortality
00:26:10 – Game: A New Year’s sermon Mad-Lib
00:34:31 – Pester the Pastor: How much should pastors spend on clothes, cars, and homes?

Monday Dec 29, 2025
Episode 94: "Post-Diabetic"
Monday Dec 29, 2025
Monday Dec 29, 2025
In this episode, Eric & Alex are joined by Not the Sermon's #1 fan, Cory! They kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking New Year’s resolutions and why they almost never survive January. In So Help Meme God, they react to a wild video of a man getting tackled while trying to attack a pastor. In Houston, We Have a Question, they dig into the role of the Ten Commandments and how they’re meant to function in the life of the church today. Finally, in Odd News, they cover a bizarre article about donating pets as food—yes, it’s exactly as strange as it sounds.
It’s chaotic, thoughtful, and just the right amount of unhinged—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:12 – Skybalon: New Year’s resolutions
00:09:18 – So Help Meme God: Tackled at the altar
00:20:50 – Pester the Pastor: The Ten Commandments
00:34:29 – Odd News: Pets as food

Monday Dec 22, 2025
Episode 93: "Holiday Confusion"
Monday Dec 22, 2025
Monday Dec 22, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking holiday plans, Mariah Carey’s annual resurrection, and the mystery of Jehovah Witness "Halls". In Shady Theology, they take a closer look at manger scenes and why they’re almost never biblically accurate. Then it’s game time with Life’s a Preach: Christmas Edition, where they try to build a sermon out of three completely random items. In Pester the Pastor, they offer some much-needed holiday financial wisdom on staying smart when spending ramps up. Finally, they debut O Baptist Church with Lots of Ham, a Christmas carol spoof with a very Baptist twist.
It’s festive, ridiculous, and just theological enough—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:24 – Skybalon: Holiday plans, Mariah Carey, & JWs
00:09:57 – Shady Theology: Manger scenes
00:22:45 – Life’s a Preach: Christmas edition
00:28:27 – Pester the Pastor: Holiday financial wisdom
00:37:13 – Baptist Christmas Carol: O Baptist Church with Lots of Ham

Monday Dec 15, 2025
Episode 92: Rainbows, Butterflies & Skittles Falling from the Sky"
Monday Dec 15, 2025
Monday Dec 15, 2025
In this episode, Eric & Alex start with Shooting the Skybalon, roasting Eric’s painfully underwhelming Spotify Wrapped. In Pester the Guest, they flip the script and pester their guest co-host about the real purpose of parachurch ministries. In Shady Theology, they wrestle with a challenging question: did Jesus actually make it hard to follow Him? Finally, in Eric’s Edumakation, Eric breaks down the key differences between preaching and teaching.
It’s reflective, spicy, and just self-aware enough—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:08 – Skybalon: Roasting Eric’s Spotify Wrapped
00:10:31 – Pester the Guest: Churches and para-church ministries
00:23:41 – Shady Theology: Did Jesus make it hard to follow Him?
00:34:39 – Eric’s Edumakation: Preaching vs. teaching

Monday Dec 08, 2025
Episode 91: Drip Coffee & Flintstone Vitamins
Monday Dec 08, 2025
Monday Dec 08, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, pulling back the curtain on what it really takes to organize a baptism Sunday. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle why Jesus cursed the fig tree and what that moment was actually about. Then it’s game time with 1-Second Christmas Songs, where they try to identify Christmas classics after hearing just one second. Finally, in The Bible Says Whaaat?!, they unpack the strange stories of Noah’s nakedness and Moses calling himself the most humble man alive.
It’s fun, weird, and packed with biblical surprises—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:12 – Skybalon: Baptism Sunday
00:12:07 – Houston, We Have a Question: Cursing the fig tree
00:22:40 – Game: 1-Second Christmas Songs
00:32:53 – Bible Says Whaaat?!: Noah’s nakedness & Moses’ humility

Monday Dec 01, 2025
Episode 90: "My Glutes Are Crying"
Monday Dec 01, 2025
Monday Dec 01, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie talks about officiating a Sermonot wedding and Eric shares how his “guest speaker workout” turned into an accidental leg day. In Christian Conspiracies, they dive into the strange and sensational world of the Red Heifer theories. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle how churches should select worship songs and what actually makes a song theologically trustworthy. Finally, in Odd News, they cover a classic: a naked Florida Man doing lawn care like it’s completely normal.
It’s wild, ridiculous, and just theological enough—welcome to Not the Sermon
00:00:13 – Skybalon: Sermonot wedding & leg day
00:09:36 – Christian Conspiracies: The Red Heifer
00:20:21 – Houston, We Have a Question: How should a church select worship songs?
00:38:03 – Odd News: Naked Florida Man does lawn care

Monday Nov 24, 2025
Episode 89: "Spanx-Giving"
Monday Nov 24, 2025
Monday Nov 24, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking poddy humor and the chaos of Black Friday shopping. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle listener questions about whether spouses should hold each other accountable spiritually and whether the Holy Spirit speaks to people in comas. Then in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a new Thanksgiving-themed parody: Here I Am to Pig Out. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they answer a timely question—how do you stay thankful?
It’s fun, honest, and the perfect mix of theology and nonsense—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:15 – Skybalon: Poddy humor and Black Friday
00:10:54 – Houston, We Have a Question: Spousal accountability & comas
00:22:52 – How Great is Our Pod: Here I Am to Pig Out
00:28:26 – Pester the Pastor: How do you stay thankful?

Monday Nov 17, 2025
Episode 88: "What's Drugs?"
Monday Nov 17, 2025
Monday Nov 17, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie calls out Eric for making faces at him during a serious ministry moment, and the guys reflect on how the D.A.R.E. program failed an entire generation. In Pilgrim or Florida Man?, they debut a new game where they read insane headlines and try to guess whether the chaos came from early American settlers or modern-day Floridians. In Shady Theology, they take on the heavy question of whether God hates some people. Finally, in Weird Worship, they get honest about how often Christians end up lying in worship songs without even realizing it.
It’s equal parts hilarious and thought-provoking—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:12 – Skybalon: Distracting Jamie during ministry
00:09:58 – Game: Pilgrim or Florida Man?
00:21:09 – Shady Theology: Does God hate some people?
00:34:01 – Weird Worship: Lying in worship songs

Monday Nov 10, 2025
Episode 87: "Daddy Needs Snake Eyes"
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
In this episode, Jamie & Eric start off with Shooting the Skybalon, featuring The Crazy Halloween Lady—a woman who messaged the church calling it a “synagogue of Satan” for hosting Trunk or Treat. In Shady Theology, they explore Holiday Rituals and Symbols—from jack-o-lanterns to Christmas trees—and ask if these traditions are kosher for Christians. Then, in Houston, We Have a Question, they take on listener questions: is casting lots a valid way to discern God’s will, will Not the Sermon ever release an album, and can we guess the date of "the end"? Finally, in Eric’s Edumakation, they break down Churches and Legal Liability—what pastors and leaders need to know before the paperwork hits the fan.
It’s funny, fiery, and a little too real—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:11 – Shooting the Skybalon: The Crazy Halloween Lady
00:09:41 – Shady Theology: Holiday rituals and symbols
00:24:18 – Houston, We Have a Question: Casting lots, NTS album, and rapture guessing
00:35:11 – Eric’s Edumakation: Churches and legal liability

Monday Nov 03, 2025
Episode 86: "Lordship Weader"
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
In this episode of Not the Sermon, the boys are back from overseas—jetlagged, dog-bitten, and running on fumes. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric shares the chaos of losing one dog and getting bitten by the other. Pester the Pastor tackles the balance between local and international ministry. In Weird Worship they dive into whether worship teams should use backing tracks, and Your Greek is Showing unpacks three Greek words for “sin.” It’s equal parts chaos, conviction, and comedy—the perfect Not the Sermon mix.00:00:14 Shooting the Skybalon: Jetlag, Eric’s Dog Woes, and COPS00:10:35 Pester the Pastor: How Much Should Churches Minister Overseas?00:21:31 Weird Worship: Should Worship Bands Use Backing Tracks?00:36:15 Your Greek Is Showing: Three Words for “Sin” in the Bible

Episode Spotlight!
#41 "Show Me Your Heresy"
Release Date 10/14/2024
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk discuss the Christian zombie apocalypse, whether or not Christians should celebrate Halloween,and how a stale cookie started "Crumblgate" in Australia.




