NOT the Sermon
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
Episodes

Monday Apr 20, 2026
Episode 110: "Pod-Keister"
Monday Apr 20, 2026
Monday Apr 20, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking about the weird, foggy feeling of the post-Easter daze and how hard it is to get back to normal life after a big Sunday. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle whether practical jokes have a place in church culture—or if they cross a line. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a foundational question: what’s the right way to pray? Finally, in Odd News, they cover a surprising story of a church inviting a tattoo artist into the foyer—raising eyebrows and questions all at once.
It’s thoughtful, a little controversial, and very on brand—welcome to Not the Sermon.

Monday Apr 13, 2026
Episode 109: "He's Gone Full Bun"
Monday Apr 13, 2026
Monday Apr 13, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, unpacking Alex’s departure and asking if maybe they’re the problem, along with Jamie sharing a recent preaching scare. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle how to handle gossip in a healthy, biblical way. In Pester the Pastor, they dig into the classic “unspoken prayer request” and how we are supposed to read your mind. Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, they explore the mystery and myths surrounding the Freemasons.
It’s honest, awkward, and just conspiratorial enough—welcome to Not the Sermon.

Monday Apr 06, 2026
Episode 108: "Eddie, Get Off the Drums!"
Monday Apr 06, 2026
Monday Apr 06, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric recounts the chaos of driving the church van through a storm. In Shady Theology, they tackle the ongoing debate: is a paper Bible actually better than digital? In So Help Meme God, they react to the now-infamous “Eddie on the drums” moment. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a practical preaching question—when is it appropriate to use other people’s stories in a sermon?
It’s chaotic, relatable, and sneakily thoughtful—welcome to Not the Sermon.

Monday Mar 30, 2026
Episode 107: "Would You Like Flies with That?"
Monday Mar 30, 2026
Monday Mar 30, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie airs out some fresh beef with Eric and things get just a little tense. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle a round of conspiracy-themed listener questions. Then in Christian Conspiracies, they dive into the popular claim that Jesus is just a retelling of Horus—and whether there’s actually anything to it. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they discuss pastors and personality types, and how much personality should shape leadership in the church.
It’s spicy, skeptical, and full of banter—welcome to Not the Sermon.

Monday Mar 23, 2026
Episode 106: "Hill-Psalms"
Monday Mar 23, 2026
Monday Mar 23, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, sharing some behind-the-scenes conference hijinks as they and another pastor find ways to entertain themselves on the road. In Shady Theology, they tackle the rise of house churches—are they a return to a biblical model or just anti-establishment energy in disguise? In Weird Worship, they ask a question many are thinking: is worship just too loud? Finally, in Oh My, Your Greek Is Showing, the guys break down metanoia—what repentance really means and why it’s more than just saying sorry.
It’s reflective, funny, and just theological enough—welcome to Not the Sermon. 🎙️

Monday Mar 16, 2026
Episode 105: "This is Why People Don't Like You"
Monday Mar 16, 2026
Monday Mar 16, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon talking about death row final meals. In Houston, We Have a Question, they talk about the surprising Christian history of piñatas. In How Great Is Our Pod, they debut a new spoof song, “The Spirit Is Speaking…Probably.” Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack positive confession and the crossover between Word of Faith teachings and New Age thinking.
It’s ridiculous, historical, and theologically spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:18 – Skybalon: Death row meals
00:11:36 – Houston, We Have a Question: Piñatas as evangelism
00:21:11 – How Great Is Our Pod: The Spirit Is Speaking…Probably
00:30:08 – Shady Theology: Positive confession

Monday Mar 09, 2026
Episode 104: "Milk Boarding"
Monday Mar 09, 2026
Monday Mar 09, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, reacting to Eric’s new life-size Steve Irwin cutout and debating the questionable survival advice for confronting predators. In Houston, We Have a Question, they answer a listener curiosity: do they ever get pushback or flack for the things they say on the podcast? In Odd News, they cover a truly disgusting story of a man who sprinkled his own armpit hair into a restaurant meal in a “pit-full” attempt to get it for free. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle whether churches should follow the traditional church calendar or stick to their own rhythms.
It’s weird, gross, and theologically curious—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:16 – Skybalon: Steve Irwin, running from alligators & punching sharks
00:10:42 – Houston, We Have a Question: Do we ever get flack for this podcast?
00:24:43 – Odd News: A “pit-full” attempt at a free dinner
00:33:26 – Pester the Pastor: Should churches follow the church calendar?

Monday Mar 02, 2026
Episode 103: "The Plaid Fairy"
Monday Mar 02, 2026
Monday Mar 02, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric proves once again that math is not his spiritual gift and Jamie finds himself getting unexpectedly plaid-bombed. In Shady Theology, they tackle kenosis—what it means that Christ “emptied himself” and why that doctrine matters more than we think. In So Help Meme God, they explore the sad (and slightly hilarious) plight of associate pastors everywhere. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a timely question: when should pastors speak up about politics—and when should they stay quiet?
It’s self-aware, theologically rich, and appropriately plaid—welcome to Not the Sermon.

Monday Feb 23, 2026
Episode 102: "Blasting Ops While Praising Pops"
Monday Feb 23, 2026
Monday Feb 23, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie confesses to a prank he pulled on Eric, and Alex shares a traumatic tale of his personal space being violated at a Japanese restaurant. In The Bible Says Whaaat?!, they dive into Genesis 34 and unpack the infamous circumcision battle—what actually happened and why it’s in the Bible. In Houston, We Have a Question, they wrestle with violent video games and Christian content, asking where discernment fits in a digital world. Finally, in Shady Theology, they tackle church discipline—what it’s meant to be, and how it often goes wrong.
It’s awkward, intense, and sneakily theological—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:20 – Skybalon: Jamie’s prank & Alex’s personal space
00:10:49 – The Bible Says Whaaat?!: The circumcision massacre (Genesis 34)
00:25:52 – Houston, We Have a Question: Violent video games & Christian content
00:39:13 – Shady Theology: Church discipline

Monday Feb 16, 2026
Episode 101: "Mosquitoes Form Gangs
Monday Feb 16, 2026
Monday Feb 16, 2026
In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie vents about the mysterious and deeply offensive concept of the “feels like” temperature during cold weather season. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle two listener curiosities: what is the best spiritual gift, and where did the ichthus fish symbol actually come from? In Weird Worship, they wrestle with the phrase “praise as a weapon” and whether that language helps or hurts our understanding of worship. Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack the controversy surrounding Bethel and Shawn Bolz, including the questions around prophetic words and data mining.
It’s thoughtful, a little spicy, and perfectly on brand—welcome to Not the Sermon.
00:00:17 – Skybalon: Jamie’s problem with the “feels like” temp
00:09:51 – Houston, We Have a Question: The best spiritual gift & the fish symbol
00:23:13 – Weird Worship: Praise as a weapon
00:33:10 – Shady Theology: Bethel & Shawn Bolz

Episode Spotlight!
#41 "Show Me Your Heresy"
Release Date 10/14/2024
In this episode, Jamie & Eric talk discuss the Christian zombie apocalypse, whether or not Christians should celebrate Halloween,and how a stale cookie started "Crumblgate" in Australia.




